Easier for an opposing team to pick on an isolated area if it's disclosed. If everyone knows it's his wrist, versus his shoulder or elbow let's say, guess where all the slashes will be directed when he comes back.
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Mar 18 @ 1:32 PM ET
Easier for an opposing team to pick on an isolated area if it's disclosed. If everyone knows it's his wrist, versus his shoulder or elbow let's say, guess where all the slashes will be directed when he comes back. - rjp4120
Regardless of what team's do or do not disclose, their opponents know 100% what the injury is. I know what the injury is. The team not saying what it is makes no sense.
Regardless of what team's do or do not disclose, their opponents know 100% what the injury is. I know what the injury is. The team not saying what it is makes no sense. - james_tanner1
100% is debatable. When someone is blatantly slashed and goes off the ice, sure, but there are other situations where an injury is not so obvious. A player could seem perfectly fine and finish a game, but later finds out he played through broken bones in his foot or wrist, thus being scratched with a lower or upper body injury after the fact. Why would a team disclose those specifics and subject that player to a longer term injury?
Regardless of what team's do or do not disclose, their opponents know 100% what the injury is. I know what the injury is. The team not saying what it is makes no sense.
- jamestanner
You think you know what the injury is. Again, you missed the boat. It's not about disrespecting fans. It's about respecting and protecting their players.
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Mar 18 @ 1:53 PM ET
Id like to see a piece comparing the usage of Kuznetsov and Backstrom. I was one of those people scratching my head at the contract Kuznetsov got. But hes been really good. So did the Caps just decide to give Kuznetsov all the ice time that Backstrom used to get? Im purely curious as I dont get to watch Caps games.
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Mar 18 @ 2:01 PM ET
100% is debatable. When someone is blatantly slashed and goes off the ice, sure, but there are other situations where an injury is not so obvious. A player could seem perfectly fine and finish a game, but later finds out he played through broken bones in his foot or wrist, thus being scratched with a lower or upper body injury after the fact. Why would a team disclose those specifics and subject that player to a longer term injury? - rjp4120
But let's say you are instructing your team to target a certain players injury. If you can't know 100% you can be pretty damn sure. 'Hey it's either his left wrist or his elbow" But this argument isn't even sensible anyways because if you really want to intentionally injure a player, everyone has soft spots, you don't need a pre-existing injury to exploit.
This is just another example of 'sports logic' which basically means something well accepted in sports circles, but which is patently ridiculous if you spend five minutes thinking about it.
But let's say you are instructing your team to target a certain players injury. If you can't know 100% you can be pretty damn sure. 'Hey it's either his left wrist or his elbow" But this argument isn't even sensible anyways because if you really want to intentionally injure a player, everyone has soft spots, you don't need a pre-existing injury to exploit.
This is just another example of 'sports logic' which basically means something well accepted in sports circles, but which is patently ridiculous if you spend five minutes thinking about it. - james_tanner1
So patently ridiculous that pretty much the entire league does it but then again the people running those teams are all uneducated.
As an NHL fan, I deserve nothing when it comes to information about injuries. I don't place unnecessary expectations on a player or organization disclosing injuries, I leave that to "their" disclosure. You really take this business of life and NHL seriously, that's what happens when you place unnecessary expectations on others. Look in the mirror JT, find the version of yourself that is at peace with yourself.....
As an NHL fan, I deserve nothing when it comes to information about injuries. I don't place unnecessary expectations on a player or organization disclosing injuries, I leave that to "their" disclosure. You really take this business of life and NHL seriously, that's what happens when you place unnecessary expectations on others. Look in the mirror JT, find the version of yourself that is at peace with yourself..... - Darklight11
You know who deserves better? NBA fans!
The players bthey root for sit out games, simply because the players don't want to play that day!!!
That's a problem.. people spend 100s of $. To see the best players play, and when they get to game those players are eating popcorn on the bench.
As an NHL fan, I deserve nothing when it comes to information about injuries. I don't place unnecessary expectations on a player or organization disclosing injuries, I leave that to "their" disclosure. You really take this business of life and NHL seriously, that's what happens when you place unnecessary expectations on others. Look in the mirror JT, find the version of yourself that is at peace with yourself..... - Darklight11
Tanner probably thinks that US citizens "deserve" to know what our military is doing on a daily basis as well, and be informed on who, when and where we wil attack ..lol
Sometimes Mr. Tanner you just aren't as important as you think you are, and if the entire NHL doesn't disclose injuries the way you would like , well, too frigging bad!
You and the rest of us aren't always privey to that top secret information
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Mar 18 @ 3:53 PM ET
Regardless of what team's do or do not disclose, their opponents know 100% what the injury is. I know what the injury is. The team not saying what it is makes no sense. - james_tanner1
For what it's worth Hitch said the Stars won't do that anymore, they'll say what the injury is. I don't know if he ever followed through on it, but at least admitting it was stupid is progress.
And maybe they just didn't want people to know what awful people they are, but many ex-NHLers and ex-NFLers have spoken out on the "they'll target the injury if they know what the injury is"; they already know and that it's hard to actually target an area during a game. That's stupid poop you only see in the movies for the most part.
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Mar 18 @ 3:59 PM ET
If you know what the injury is, why do you even (frank)ing care????
No one cares but you about this kind of crap....other then that....great blog. - Garnie
But Dallas Stars coach Ken Hitchcock believes there's no harm in reporting what ails his players, and he would like to see the "games" end when it comes to releasing injury information.
"I think we collectively hate playing the game. What I mean by that is [that] we say 'upper body,' then you go on the phone, and then you look up things or you go to the doctors, find out what part of the upper body ... [so] we try to make your work easier, quite frankly," he told reporters on Tuesday in Dallas, via The Athletic.
"It's just easy to tell you what it is and let's move forward. It's just the whole game. It's an injury, and within two hours after we tell you it's 'upper body,' you know exactly what it is, so why not just tell you?"
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Washington Capitals coach Barry Trotz told ESPN on Tuesday that there are some injuries his team will disclose and others it won't, based on sensitivity or severity.
"I think you want to protect the player a little bit. Players in the league will target certain parts of the body," he said.
But Hitchcock refuted that notion. "The players don't go out and say: 'He has a broken left pinkie and we're going to go after that 'pinkie.' Nobody thinks like that," he said.
But Dallas Stars coach Ken Hitchcock believes there's no harm in reporting what ails his players, and he would like to see the "games" end when it comes to releasing injury information.
"I think we collectively hate playing the game. What I mean by that is - Wetbandit1[that] we say 'upper body,' then you go on the phone, and then you look up things or you go to the doctors, find out what part of the upper body ... [so] we try to make your work easier, quite frankly," he told reporters on Tuesday in Dallas, via The Athletic.
"It's just easy to tell you what it is and let's move forward. It's just the whole game. It's an injury, and within two hours after we tell you it's 'upper body,' you know exactly what it is, so why not just tell you?"
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Washington Capitals coach Barry Trotz told ESPN on Tuesday that there are some injuries his team will disclose and others it won't, based on sensitivity or severity.
"I think you want to protect the player a little bit. Players in the league will target certain parts of the body," he said.
But Hitchcock refuted that notion. "The players don't go out and say: 'He has a broken left pinkie and we're going to go after that 'pinkie.' Nobody thinks like that," he said.
I had a great co-op experience working with the marlies through the 2008/9 season as a trainer. The upper/lower body injury jargon is there to prevent all the people who work close to the team from exposing players weaknesses by giving them something to say.
I had a great co-op experience working with the marlies through the 2008/9 season as a trainer. The upper/lower body injury jargon is there to prevent all the people who work close to the team from exposing players weaknesses by giving them something to say. - BrainSap
Makes sense to me. Good point
A ton of people in NHL organizations would like to have that info, and benefit from it
As an NHL fan, I deserve nothing when it comes to information about injuries. I don't place unnecessary expectations on a player or organization disclosing injuries, I leave that to "their" disclosure. You really take this business of life and NHL seriously, that's what happens when you place unnecessary expectations on others. Look in the mirror JT, find the version of yourself that is at peace with yourself..... - Darklight11
Radical liberals are never at peace with themselves or society. They are in constant meltdown mode, living on the edge of perpetual outrage and self pity.
Radical liberals are never at peace with themselves or society. They are in constant meltdown mode, living on the edge of perpetual outrage and self pity.
I had a great co-op experience working with the marlies through the 2008/9 season as a trainer. The upper/lower body injury jargon is there to prevent all the people who work close to the team from exposing players weaknesses by giving them something to say. - BrainSap
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